NCTS Public Meeting

SUNY Canton

Canton, NY

11/8/01

Meeting convened at 8:10 pm by Robert Juravich.

 

Public Comments/Questions and Consultant Responses (spelling of names approximate)

Question: Why don’t we capitalize on what we already have here? Worried about scenic byways preservation and attractiveness of the region if funds are channeled into highway. What happens when consultant goes away and decisions are left to locals?

Response: State and federal processes mandate consideration of key environmental issues. Don’t want to take away scenic byway status.

Question: Have we connected with Clarkson regarding sustainability approaches?

Response: Make sure Jim Donovan (WSA) contacts Clarkson regarding this.

Question: Major issues are financing and environmental; need to be presented to public before document is finalized. (1) Concerned about fragility of ecology in this area, including wetlands. This area has many highways built through wetlands, and many frogs give their lives each year to automobiles. (2) How does highway compare with a rail line from Watertown to Plattsburgh? Need strong comparative analysis. (3) Quality of life issues – Washington County, NY example vis-à-vis Northway impacts. (4) Bypasses remain big issue and need. (5) Subsidizing bus transportation – need analysis. (6) Sustainability issue – this area has many of the most polluting industries in the state, and trend is "dirty" jobs.

Response: Regarding rail transportation, this is an element of the overall multimodal plan; must consider both freight and passenger movements.

Question: Concerns are social: Truncating region into two areas; hamlets being bypassed will result in their slow death; there will be takings of homes and businesses; destruction of a way a life; and environmental: Loss of wildlife habitat; concerned about the wildlife corridor between Algonquin Park and the Adirondack Park.

Response: Valid points.

Comment: Why can’t we get trucks off the roads through the downtowns? Need to get through vehicles out of town – bypasses are needed. Need more publicity of this process.

Question: Rt. 812 has not been upgraded, plans 40 years old to go to Canada. $1 billion is not outrageous compared to other projects in the state.

Question: How do we start process for scientific data collection on animal migration patterns now?

Response: While certainly very important, the level of detail involved is more in line with a detailed environmental review process that occurs after final alignment options are identified.

Question: How many acres, length, who will pay for any land purchased?

Response: Cannot determine until actual alignments are identified.

Question: Is there enough right of way for a 4-lane highway along Rt. 11?

Response: In many areas, yes. In others, some property acquisition may be needed.

Question: A lot of farmers use Rt. 11 for their machinery, would make it more difficult to be a farmer?

Response: Options are many for accommodating farmers; there are examples from Vermont involving farmer-controlled signals, for example, that could be used. No plans can or will go forward until resident and public concerns are heard and addressed.

Comment: St Lawrence County is relatively less connected to the world now than 100 years ago; disinvestments in region’s transportation over the years. Important to retain the jobs the region has now.

Question: Similar projects in similar regions to use as examples? What issues may come up in this development effort?

Response: We included this sort of information in the full report.

Questions: Before we look at a 4-lane highway, look at 37, 3, 11, 58, 812, 30 complex and try to make it better. Concerned bypassing downtowns will kill the businesses there.

Question: Live on Rt 11 in Potsdam, own about 1/3 of an acre. Concerned about how much ROW might be acquired that would affect them? What is timetable?

Response: Cannot determine until actual alignments are identified.

Question: Aren’t you making some efficiency improvement conclusions based on shaky assumptions about timeframe for highway upgrade?

Response: We consider the timeframe proposed reasonable, based on experiences in NYS and elsewhere. Also, we’re on same timetable as the current northern New England highway proposal, a project that would integrate with this one.

Question: How will this hook into Lake Placid, the tourism hub?

Response: It will not directly affect access to Lake Placid, but would certainly improve mobility throughout the general region and for tourists traveling to Lake Placid from the north and west.

Name

Town of Residence or Organization Represented

Phone

Email

Patrick Brady

 

Town of Potsdam

315-353-2980

pbrady@mcs.k12.ny.us

Kathy Mullaney

 

Pierrepoint

265-0223

 

Linda Cota

 

Canton

386-2927

wizkids@northnet.org

Stuart Cota

 

Canton

386-2927

 

Doug MacQueen

 

Potsdam

265-6831

 

Joe R (?)

 

Potsdam

265-2909

 

Raul R. Goodin, Jr.

 

Antwerp

287-3935

 

Guy L. Willem (?)

 

Village of Harrisville

543-2137

 

John Omohuunder

 

Hannawa Falls

265-8365

omohuujt@northnet.org

Judy Gibson

Canton

xx6-1845

 

 

Ellen Connett

 

St. Lawrence County Green Party

315-379-9200

wastnot@northnet.org

 

G. Hamilton

 

Ogdensburg

393-0978

 

R. Webster

 

Ogdensburg

393-0978

 

Paul M

 

Potsdam Planning/Development

379-1670

 

Michael Scriminger

 

520 Old Route #11, Canton, NY

379-9543

4thcoast@northnet.org

David Whitmore

 

Cong. John M. McHugh

783-2101

 

Sunita Halasz

 

NYS Adirondack Park Agency

891-4050

sshalasz@gw.dec.state.ny.us

Heidi Kretzer

 

Adirondack Communities & Conservation Program

327-6989

 

Rich Dao???

 

Massena

769-8731

 

George Tart

 

Gouverneur, NY

114 Rock Island St.

287-1422

 

Jim & Julie McGraw

 

DeKalb Junction

347-2362

J_mcgraw@tds.net

 

Dick & Terri Nautel

 

Canton

386-2387

 

 

Paul Goodnough

 

Winthrop, NY

315-389-5516

goodnoug@slic.com

Ed Petty

 

Canton

386-2888

edpetty@northnet.org

Laurie Bush

 

Gouvernor

287-2436

 

David Bush

 

Gouvernor

287-2436

 

Daniel S. Amaral

 

DeKalb Junction

347-1988

 

Cora Condrin

 

Fine

848-2316

Condri50@potsdam.edu

Allan Newell

 

Hammond

324-5404

apnewell@cit-tele.com

Roger B. Cook ??

 

Governeur

287-4173

rdacook@northnet.org

Brian Kidwell

 

???? Journal

392-1000

 

Tom Nichols

 

5201 CRG, Ogdensburg, NY 13669

St. Lawrence Co. Legislator

393-2452

tnichols@northnet.org

Ed Russell

 

St. Lawrence County IDA

315-393-4080

dlduprey@ogdensport.com

David Paradis

 

Potsdam

   

 

Marilyn Paradia

 

Potsdam

   

Brian Kirch

 

NYSDOT – Main Office Albany

518-457-3429

Bkirchgw@dot.state.ny.us

Winston & Joanne Bishop

 

Governeur, DeKalb Herman Senior Citizens

315-287-0394

 

Barbara Hance

 

Russell, NY

315-562-3494

 

Robert Miller

 

Russell, NY

315-562-3494

 

Matt Guardino

 

Watertown Daily Times

386-3571

 

Joseph Tacchino

 

De Pey Star

344-8828

breezy@lttfilsp.com

Donald B. Eggleston

 

Potsdam, MY

315-265-2681

egglesd@canton.edu

Sheri Ento (?)

 

Small business Development Center

315-386-7312

Entos@canton.edu